Mail Archives: djgpp/1997/01/31/18:17:56
On Thu, 30 Jan 1997, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
:>
:>On Wed, 29 Jan 1997 afn03257 AT afn DOT org wrote:
:>>
:>> >to comment on something that I didn't understand. I use GCC on
:>> >different platforms since version 1.4.0, which was about 10 years ago,
:>>
:>> Not posible unless this is 1999.
:>
:>Isn't it? ;-)
:>
:>OK, so it's 8 years (still qualifies to be ``about 10 years'', IMHO).
I know a lot of 8 year olds that would be happy to hear that. ;-)
:>> Did they debug or just find bugs? There is a difference. Dedicated >
:>programmers? You call someone who looks through those sources, having >
:>not coded it themself, to find a bug not dedicated? then to make the >
:>patch and send it in? I'd call that dedicated.
:>
:>Dedicated is open to interpretation. Here's mine: a dedicated programmer
:>is somebody whose daytime job is to support a given program/package, or
:>who invests most of their working week in it. That is certainly NOT the
:>case with neither most of the GNU project, nor with DJGPP.
Sounds like a job. ;-)
:>> >*Any* software has bugs, no matter how long it is developed. In fact,
:>> >one of the definitions of software is ``lines of codes with bugs'' ;-).
:>>
:>> What??
:>> That is exactly what I said, and you said I was wrong.
:>
:>We seem to agree on more and more points as we go. So why are we still
:>arguing?
Are we?
I didn't think we were arguing.
You made a statement about Borland being buggy.
I didn't find it to be really accurate considering, so I added my
$.04 [inflation].
:>> This is true, however, technically you could patch the comercial
:>> software yourself with a debugger.
:>
:>Incidentally, that's what I did sometimes because I couldn't get the
:>vendor to let me have a patched version in reasonable time. But this can
:>hardly qualify as a good way to maintain software.
Naturally I wouldn't say this is a good way to support commercial software,
and HLL src code would be much better. Nonetheless, one point I neglected to
mention is that several of the errors reported to Borland are actually
windows API bugs which borland can't really do anything about.
I had a reply for the newsgroup but my nntp server is down again, as
usual.
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