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On Tue, 22 Jan 2019, gedah AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, 21 Jan 2019, Christopher Nielsen (chris AT zorinco DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>> I didn't know there was an official package. dnf search didn't find it, and I
>> have RPM Fusion repos in addition to normal ones.
>
> Yup, we are in fedora 29. The packaging is modular: the HIDs are in
> plugins in separate packages so you can select what you want to install.
> The pcb-rnd package is a meta-package that brings in all the packages
> for the usual setup.

Ah, the machine I searched with is Fedora 28... I see it doing 'dnf 
search' on the newer 29 machine.

>
>> I downloaded
>> pcb-rnd-2.1.0.tar.gz and compiled from that.
>
>
> When compiling from source, are you sure you have all the -dev packages
> installed for the GUI?
>
> When you run configure, it prints a nice summary at the end about what it
> found and what you will get. You should look at the bottom, it looks like
> this on my developer machine:

Oh, I wasn't paying attention so much to that. Didn't see anything that 
looked like an error (probably walked away while it was going). I'll try 
that again. May be a day or two.

On the stackup and the file I sent, I've pretty much gone with out of the 
box defaults, and never really looked at the prefs/layers/groups thing 
before my problem started. Not sure what best practice is, but it sounds 
like trying pcb-rnd will make that more clear.

Thanks again for all the help! And checking out my file...

Cheers,
C




> ~~~
>
> HID plugins:
> batch process (no-gui HID)      yes, buildin    [hid_batch]
> GTK2 GUI, software render       yes, buildin    [hid_gtk2_gdk]
> GTK2 GUI, opengl render         no              [hid_gtk2_gl]
> GTK3 GUI, cairo render          no              [hid_gtk3_cairo]
> GTK3 GUI, gl render             no              [hid_gtk3_gl]
> the lesstif gui                 yes, buildin    [hid_lesstif]
> remote HID server               yes, buildin    [hid_remote]
>
> WARNING: Since there's no gl support for gtk found, disabling the gl rendering...
>
> ~~~
>
> If you see GTK2 entries 'no', that most probably means you have missing
> -dev package installation. I'm not a fedora user so I don't know about the
> package names there, but on Debian I need libgtk2.0-dev and if you also
> want opengl it's  libgtkglext1-dev . For the lesstif HID, it's
> libmotif-dev (or liblesstif-dev on older systems).
>
> Please note: unlike in pcb, you don't have select only one GUI
> compile-time: you can have multiple HIDs enabled and select which one to
> use run-time. (The only exception gtk3 vs gtk2 because they are
> incompatible and can not be compiled in both in the same time - but I
> don't recommend gtk3 anyway, it's just too slow).
>
> HTH,
>
> Igor2
>

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