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From: "Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-help AT delorie DOT com>
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2019 13:10:40 +1030
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Subject: Re: [geda-help] Question: New User - How To Create Very Simple Unique
PCB With No Components
To: "Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-help AT delorie DOT com>
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A few thoughts...

The characteristics of FR4 can vary depending on temperature, humidity and
frequency of operation.

The manufacturer may not be able to do the exact thickness you need.

Yes, a via would allow connection to copper on the underside to tracks on
the top layer

Regards,

Erich

On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 12:55 John L. Males (jlmales AT gmail DOT com) [via
geda-help AT delorie DOT com], <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

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> Eric,
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> I hope I am replying in the correct manner for the mailing list.
>
> I left out some elements on purpose not aware of possible
> suggestion to stack the PCBs.
>
> I cannot stack two PCBs for thickness reasons that are actually
> specific for the this simple PCB board.  The thickness of the
> board will need to be about 0.79mm.  As indicated PCB thickness
> is specified when board is made and not in the PCB software.
>
> I thought is would be simple to have a copper plane on both
> sides of board and to include holes in this simple PCB.  The
> simple PCB board is a capacitor based on copper surface area
> minus the holes that need to be there to allow air to
> freely move due to the plates on either side of the simple PCB
> I want to make.  The PCB I want to make needs a 0.79mm gap
> between the two copper planes of the PCB, ergo a PCB
> thickness of about 0.79mm.
>
> The copper area will be about the middle 80% (off top of my
> head). I have not calculated the exact surface area of the two
> copper planes yet.  The minimum board span will be 4 inches
> minus about 1.25 inches for the combined sides the board is
> mounted on and the gap of the moving plates this PCB will be
> sandwiched between.
>
> I indicated minimum board span as I may want to add about 0.75
> inches to one side of the PCB length to overhang on one side of
> the span points.  This to allow easy access and clearance for
> connectors if I choose to design for connectors.  A soldered to
> board wires via solder pads that will not need any board
> overhang.
>
> In essence I need two layers, but thought it might be useful
> for third layer that runs inside the board that brings traces
> out from each copper plane.  The intent was to make it easy for
> the lead out traces not to short on the aluminum block at the
> end where the connections are made to the PCB via wires or
> connectors.
>
> Maybe I have to consider adding thin coat of varathane to
> insulate the lower trace to a top trace transition for
> connection of wires via pad or connectors.  The top side of the
> board is not in contact with any metal.  Might that present a
> way to transition the lower plane of copper to an upper trace?
> Is a via the correct term/approach to allow?  I can ensure the
> is a bit of gap and enough clearance from the aluminum
> mounting block for a via or what it needed to transition a
> bottom trace/copper to upper trace for solder pad or connector.
>
> If it is useful I could see if I can create an image of both
> sides of board with a drawing program.  I am not certain if I
> can, but I can see if that helps clarify my attempt to
> articulate what I am trying to do.
>
>
> John L. Males
> Toronto, Ontario
> Canada
> 18 October 2019 22:00 -0400 EDT
>
>
> ================================================================
>
> 2019-10-19 01:25:11+0000-UTC Time: 1571448311 PC/System time
>
> 19 Oct 01:25:11 ntpdate[15820]: ntpdate 4.2.8p12-a (1)
>
> 19 Oct 01:25:26 ntpdate[17068]: step time server 206.108.0.132
> offset 0.001708 sec
>
> FreeBSD 11.3-STABLE FreeBSD 11.3-STABLE #0 r349903: Thu Jul 11
> 16:13:47 UTC 2019
> root AT releng2 DOT nyi DOT freebsd DOT org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
>
> (Work in progress alternative to Linux Kernel of its own right,
>  Debian, and
>  other Linux based Kernel distributions determined.)
>
> Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz
> Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz (1396.86-MHz K8-class
> CPU) Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz (1396.86-MHz
> K8-class CPU) Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz
> (1396.86-MHz K8-class CPU) Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @
> 1.40GHz (1396.86-MHz K8-class CPU) Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M
> CPU @ 1.40GHz (1396.86-MHz K8-class CPU)
>
> dev.cpu.0.temperature: 69.0C
> dev.cpu.1.temperature: 68.0C
> dev.cpu.2.temperature: 64.0C
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 64.0C
> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 69.1C
>
> vmstat -s:
>
> 188317092 cpu context switches
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>
> real memory  = 8589934592 (8192 MB)
> avail memory = 8166465536 (7788 MB)
>
> last pid: 23225;  load averages:  1.41,  0.92,  0.69  up
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>
> Mem: 1852M Active, 3961M Inact, 814M Laundry, 979M Wired, 510M
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>
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>
> swapinfo:
>
> Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
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>
> vmstat:
>
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> faults         cpu r b w     avm     fre  flt  re  pi  po
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> Message replied to:
>
> Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2019 11:12:00 +1030
> From: "Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via
> geda-help AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> To: "Vladimir
> Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com]"
> <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> Subject: Re: [geda-help] Question: New
> User - How To Create Very Simple Unique PCB With No Components
>
>
> > The PCB thickness is usually selected at the time of ordering
> > the board from the manufacturer.
> >
> > Routine FR4 is 1.6mm thick, with 1 or 2 oz per square foot of
> > copper for the front and back planes.
> >
> > The next option up from double sided is 4 layer boards, which
> > are quite a bit more expensive.
> >
> > My approach to your board stack up would be to make two
> > double sided boards which have fairly full copper coverage on
> > their bottom layers and then get stacked one on top of the
> > other, with the full copper planes outermost. You can then
> > make any holes in the two boards correspond for all the way
> > through perforations, or not, for part way perforations into
> > the middle layer(s) section for access to any trackwork.
> >
> > Attention to registration marks, (maybe  using some drill
> > holes for mountung hardware for this) would be important.
> >
> > Apertures on a board are defined with the outline layer, and
> > need to take account of a milling cutter's typically 0.8mm
> > diameter, and the centres of the lines on the outline layer
> > for apertures define the path of the cutter's outer radius.
> >
> > If you need slots, or windowing of solder mask layers, it may
> > be easier to do the board in pcb-rnd, which supports slots,
> > as well as arbitrary negative apertures on the solder mask
> > layer, which may be necessary, depending on your plans for
> > exposure of the inner and outer layer copper areas.
> >
> > You could do most of the above as a four layer board, by
> > censoring/eliminating one of the internal layers, but you may
> > be paying a lot to do this, and may struggle to get the
> > openings you want communicated effectively to the board
> > fabricator.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Erich
> >
> > On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 09:34 John L. Males (jlmales AT gmail DOT com)
> > [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com], <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
> >
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> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > This is my first posting here.  I do not know if the mailing
> > > list will automatically eMail me a reply.  I have looked at
> > > the mailing list commands and options I cannot find if and
> > > how I may set if replies to me or others can be set.
> > >
> > > I am new to PCB software, but have reasonable average
> > > electronics skills over a number of years.
> > >
> > > I have a simple and unique challenge I have tried many
> > > different ways to figure out.  I have done alot of internet
> > > searching, looked at many tutorials, and tried using PCB
> > > based on tutorials and my own exploring about PCB to find
> > > how I do this simple and unique PCB.
> > >
> > > I need to create a PCB that has a copper plane on top and
> > > bottom of the PCB.  That simple.  No components.  It is
> > > likely via a third layer between the top and bottom copper
> > > planes I will want traces out to holes I may make as solder
> > > tabs or us a connector of some type.  The reason for the
> > > trace connections as a third layer is to ensure the traces
> > > do not short with the aluminum parts metal part the PCB has
> > > to be mounted to directly at each end of the PCB.
> > >
> > > Then I will need to create a set of holes in the parallel
> > > copper planes area whose sole purpose is to let air pass
> > > between and not be a connection between the top and bottom
> > > copper planes.
> > >
> > > If I need to specify a PCB thickness then how I do so.  So
> > > far I have not been able to find a setting/preference for
> > > the PCB thickness to do so.
> > >
> > > The how to do the connector and/or solder tab is not
> > > critical to the primary question.  I will try to figure
> > > that out after I have the most important part of the PCB as
> > > noted above done in PCB.
> > >
> > > I will need to do a second PCB, but it will have lots of
> > > components on it.  I would need to enter the schematic
> > > first of curse. I suspect I will manage with the help
> > > examples I have already read and will read again when I am
> > > ready to create a PCB from the schematic.
> > >
> > > If there is any missing part of the information to my core
> > > question of copper planes on top/bottom and holes in the
> > > copper plane that do not connect the top and bottom copper
> > > planes feel free to ask or comment on.
> > >
> > >
> > > John L. Males
> > > Toronto, Ontario
> > > Canada
> > > 18 October 2019 18:38 -0400 EDT
> > >
> > >
> > > ================================================================
> > >
> > > 2019-10-18 22:05:20+0000-UTC Time: 1571436320 PC/System time
> > >
> > > 18 Oct 22:05:20 ntpdate[85789]: ntpdate 4.2.8p12-a (1)
> > >
> > > 18 Oct 22:05:35 ntpdate[87775]: step time server
> > > 206.108.0.131 offset -0.004716 sec
> > >
> > > FreeBSD 11.3-STABLE FreeBSD 11.3-STABLE #0 r349903: Thu Jul
> > > 11 16:13:47 UTC 2019
> > > root AT releng2 DOT nyi DOT freebsd DOT org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
> > >
> > > (Work in progress alternative to Linux Kernel of its own
> > > right, Debian, and
> > >  other Linux based Kernel distributions determined.)
> > >
> > > Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz
> > > Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz (1396.86-MHz
> > > K8-class CPU) Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz
> > > (1396.86-MHz K8-class CPU) Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @
> > > 1.40GHz (1396.86-MHz K8-class CPU) Intel(R) Core(TM)
> > > i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz (1396.86-MHz K8-class CPU) Intel(R)
> > > Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz (1396.86-MHz K8-class CPU)
> > >
> > > dev.cpu.0.temperature: 71.0C
> > > dev.cpu.1.temperature: 70.0C
> > > dev.cpu.2.temperature: 66.0C
> > > dev.cpu.3.temperature: 66.0C
> > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 72.1C
> > >
> > > vmstat -s:
> > >
> > > 128476253 cpu context switches
> > >   4928508 device interrupts
> > >    661878 software interrupts
> > >  41825629 traps
> > > 346413636 system calls
> > >        27 kernel threads created
> > >      3000  fork() calls
> > >       793 vfork() calls
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> > >   3108988 total name lookups
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> > > per-directory deletions 0%, falsehits 0%, toolong 0%
> > >
> > > Boot time : 1571414099
> > >
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> > >
> > > memory info:
> > >
> > > real memory  = 8589934592 (8192 MB)
> > > avail memory = 8166465536 (7788 MB)
> > >
> > > last pid: 92816;  load averages:  0.46,  0.66,  0.83  up
> > > 0+06:10:37    22:05:36 56 processes:  1 running, 55 sleeping
> > >
> > > Mem: 1840M Active, 3964M Inact, 747M Laundry, 917M Wired,
> > > 474M Buf, 375M Free Swap: 48G Total, 48G Free
> > >
> > > hw.physmem: 8463925248
> > > hw.usermem: 7502598144
> > > hw.realmem: 8589934592
> > >
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> > > buffers     cached Mem:       8030732    3587088
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> > >
> > > swapinfo:
> > >
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> > > /dev/ada0s1b     50331644        0 50331644     0%
> > >
> > > vmstat:
> > >
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<div dir=3D"auto">A few thoughts...<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
auto">The characteristics of FR4 can vary depending on temperature, humidit=
y and frequency of operation.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">=
The manufacturer may not be able to do the exact thickness you need.</div><=
div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Yes, a via would allow connect=
ion to copper on the underside to tracks on the top layer</div><div dir=3D"=
auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Regards,</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"auto">Erich</div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 12:55 John L. Males=
 (<a href=3D"mailto:jlmales AT gmail DOT com">jlmales AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=
=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>], &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-le=
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<br>
Eric,<br>
<br>
Thanks for your reply.<br>
<br>
I hope I am replying in the correct manner for the mailing list.<br>
<br>
I left out some elements on purpose not aware of possible<br>
suggestion to stack the PCBs.<br>
<br>
I cannot stack two PCBs for thickness reasons that are actually<br>
specific for the this simple PCB board.=C2=A0 The thickness of the<br>
board will need to be about 0.79mm.=C2=A0 As indicated PCB thickness<br>
is specified when board is made and not in the PCB software.<br>
<br>
I thought is would be simple to have a copper plane on both<br>
sides of board and to include holes in this simple PCB.=C2=A0 The<br>
simple PCB board is a capacitor based on copper surface area<br>
minus the holes that need to be there to allow air to<br>
freely move due to the plates on either side of the simple PCB<br>
I want to make.=C2=A0 The PCB I want to make needs a 0.79mm gap<br>
between the two copper planes of the PCB, ergo a PCB<br>
thickness of about 0.79mm.<br>
<br>
The copper area will be about the middle 80% (off top of my<br>
head). I have not calculated the exact surface area of the two<br>
copper planes yet.=C2=A0 The minimum board span will be 4 inches<br>
minus about 1.25 inches for the combined sides the board is<br>
mounted on and the gap of the moving plates this PCB will be<br>
sandwiched between.<br>
<br>
I indicated minimum board span as I may want to add about 0.75<br>
inches to one side of the PCB length to overhang on one side of<br>
the span points.=C2=A0 This to allow easy access and clearance for<br>
connectors if I choose to design for connectors.=C2=A0 A soldered to<br>
board wires via solder pads that will not need any board<br>
overhang.<br>
<br>
In essence I need two layers, but thought it might be useful<br>
for third layer that runs inside the board that brings traces<br>
out from each copper plane.=C2=A0 The intent was to make it easy for<br>
the lead out traces not to short on the aluminum block at the<br>
end where the connections are made to the PCB via wires or<br>
connectors.<br>
<br>
Maybe I have to consider adding thin coat of varathane to<br>
insulate the lower trace to a top trace transition for<br>
connection of wires via pad or connectors.=C2=A0 The top side of the<br>
board is not in contact with any metal.=C2=A0 Might that present a<br>
way to transition the lower plane of copper to an upper trace?<br>
Is a via the correct term/approach to allow?=C2=A0 I can ensure the<br>
is a bit of gap and enough clearance from the aluminum<br>
mounting block for a via or what it needed to transition a<br>
bottom trace/copper to upper trace for solder pad or connector.<br>
<br>
If it is useful I could see if I can create an image of both<br>
sides of board with a drawing program.=C2=A0 I am not certain if I<br>
can, but I can see if that helps clarify my attempt to<br>
articulate what I am trying to do.<br>
<br>
<br>
John L. Males<br>
Toronto, Ontario<br>
Canada<br>
18 October 2019 22:00 -0400 EDT<br>
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=C2=A0Debian, and<br>
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Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz (1396.86-MHz K8-class<br>
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(1396.86-MHz K8-class CPU) Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @<br>
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Message replied to:<br>
<br>
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2019 11:12:00 +1030<br>
From: &quot;Erich Heinzle (<a href=3D"mailto:a1039181 AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"=
_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">a1039181 AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferre=
r">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>]&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie=
.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt; To=
: &quot;Vladimir<br>
Zhbanov (<a href=3D"mailto:vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nor=
eferrer">vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT c=
om" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>]&quot;<b=
r>
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noref=
errer">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt; Subject: Re: [geda-help] Question: New=
<br>
User - How To Create Very Simple Unique PCB With No Components<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; The PCB thickness is usually selected at the time of ordering<br>
&gt; the board from the manufacturer.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Routine FR4 is 1.6mm thick, with 1 or 2 oz per square foot of<br>
&gt; copper for the front and back planes.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; The next option up from double sided is 4 layer boards, which<br>
&gt; are quite a bit more expensive.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; My approach to your board stack up would be to make two<br>
&gt; double sided boards which have fairly full copper coverage on<br>
&gt; their bottom layers and then get stacked one on top of the<br>
&gt; other, with the full copper planes outermost. You can then<br>
&gt; make any holes in the two boards correspond for all the way<br>
&gt; through perforations, or not, for part way perforations into<br>
&gt; the middle layer(s) section for access to any trackwork.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Attention to registration marks, (maybe=C2=A0 using some drill<br>
&gt; holes for mountung hardware for this) would be important.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Apertures on a board are defined with the outline layer, and<br>
&gt; need to take account of a milling cutter&#39;s typically 0.8mm<br>
&gt; diameter, and the centres of the lines on the outline layer<br>
&gt; for apertures define the path of the cutter&#39;s outer radius.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; If you need slots, or windowing of solder mask layers, it may<br>
&gt; be easier to do the board in pcb-rnd, which supports slots,<br>
&gt; as well as arbitrary negative apertures on the solder mask<br>
&gt; layer, which may be necessary, depending on your plans for<br>
&gt; exposure of the inner and outer layer copper areas.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; You could do most of the above as a four layer board, by<br>
&gt; censoring/eliminating one of the internal layers, but you may<br>
&gt; be paying a lot to do this, and may struggle to get the<br>
&gt; openings you want communicated effectively to the board<br>
&gt; fabricator.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Regards,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Erich<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 09:34 John L. Males (<a href=3D"mailto:jlmales AT gma=
il.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">jlmales AT gmail DOT com</a>)<br>
&gt; [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D=
"noreferrer">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>], &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT de=
lorie.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>
&gt; &gt; Hash: SHA1<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Hello,<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; This is my first posting here.=C2=A0 I do not know if the mailing=
<br>
&gt; &gt; list will automatically eMail me a reply.=C2=A0 I have looked at<=
br>
&gt; &gt; the mailing list commands and options I cannot find if and<br>
&gt; &gt; how I may set if replies to me or others can be set.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; I am new to PCB software, but have reasonable average<br>
&gt; &gt; electronics skills over a number of years.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; I have a simple and unique challenge I have tried many<br>
&gt; &gt; different ways to figure out.=C2=A0 I have done alot of internet<=
br>
&gt; &gt; searching, looked at many tutorials, and tried using PCB<br>
&gt; &gt; based on tutorials and my own exploring about PCB to find<br>
&gt; &gt; how I do this simple and unique PCB.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; I need to create a PCB that has a copper plane on top and<br>
&gt; &gt; bottom of the PCB.=C2=A0 That simple.=C2=A0 No components.=C2=A0 =
It is<br>
&gt; &gt; likely via a third layer between the top and bottom copper<br>
&gt; &gt; planes I will want traces out to holes I may make as solder<br>
&gt; &gt; tabs or us a connector of some type.=C2=A0 The reason for the<br>
&gt; &gt; trace connections as a third layer is to ensure the traces<br>
&gt; &gt; do not short with the aluminum parts metal part the PCB has<br>
&gt; &gt; to be mounted to directly at each end of the PCB.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Then I will need to create a set of holes in the parallel<br>
&gt; &gt; copper planes area whose sole purpose is to let air pass<br>
&gt; &gt; between and not be a connection between the top and bottom<br>
&gt; &gt; copper planes.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; If I need to specify a PCB thickness then how I do so.=C2=A0 So<b=
r>
&gt; &gt; far I have not been able to find a setting/preference for<br>
&gt; &gt; the PCB thickness to do so.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; The how to do the connector and/or solder tab is not<br>
&gt; &gt; critical to the primary question.=C2=A0 I will try to figure<br>
&gt; &gt; that out after I have the most important part of the PCB as<br>
&gt; &gt; noted above done in PCB.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; I will need to do a second PCB, but it will have lots of<br>
&gt; &gt; components on it.=C2=A0 I would need to enter the schematic<br>
&gt; &gt; first of curse. I suspect I will manage with the help<br>
&gt; &gt; examples I have already read and will read again when I am<br>
&gt; &gt; ready to create a PCB from the schematic.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; If there is any missing part of the information to my core<br>
&gt; &gt; question of copper planes on top/bottom and holes in the<br>
&gt; &gt; copper plane that do not connect the top and bottom copper<br>
&gt; &gt; planes feel free to ask or comment on.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; John L. Males<br>
&gt; &gt; Toronto, Ontario<br>
&gt; &gt; Canada<br>
&gt; &gt; 18 October 2019 18:38 -0400 EDT<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; 2019-10-18 22:05:20+0000-UTC Time: 1571436320 PC/System time<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; 18 Oct 22:05:20 ntpdate[85789]: ntpdate 4.2.8p12-a (1)<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; 18 Oct 22:05:35 ntpdate[87775]: step time server<br>
&gt; &gt; 206.108.0.131 offset -0.004716 sec<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; FreeBSD 11.3-STABLE FreeBSD 11.3-STABLE #0 r349903: Thu Jul<br>
&gt; &gt; 11 16:13:47 UTC 2019<br>
&gt; &gt; root AT releng2 DOT nyi DOT freebsd DOT org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; (Work in progress alternative to Linux Kernel of its own<br>
&gt; &gt; right, Debian, and<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 other Linux based Kernel distributions determined.)<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz<br>
&gt; &gt; Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz (1396.86-MHz<br>
&gt; &gt; K8-class CPU) Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz<br>
&gt; &gt; (1396.86-MHz K8-class CPU) Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @<br>
&gt; &gt; 1.40GHz (1396.86-MHz K8-class CPU) Intel(R) Core(TM)<br>
&gt; &gt; i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz (1396.86-MHz K8-class CPU) Intel(R)<br>
&gt; &gt; Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz (1396.86-MHz K8-class CPU)<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; dev.cpu.0.temperature: 71.0C<br>
&gt; &gt; dev.cpu.1.temperature: 70.0C<br>
&gt; &gt; dev.cpu.2.temperature: 66.0C<br>
&gt; &gt; dev.cpu.3.temperature: 66.0C<br>
&gt; &gt; hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 72.1C<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; vmstat -s:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; 128476253 cpu context switches<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A04928508 device interrupts<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 661878 software interrupts<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 41825629 traps<br>
&gt; &gt; 346413636 system calls<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 27 kernel threads created<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 3000=C2=A0 fork() calls<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0793 vfork() calls<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 rfork() calls<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 swap pager pageins<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 swap pager pages paged in<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 swap pager pageouts<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 swap pager pages paged out<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 8688 vnode pager pageins<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 120478 vnode pager pages paged in<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0322 vnode pager pageouts<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 3527 vnode pager pages paged out<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A03 page daemon wakeups<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 19153450 pages examined by the page daemon<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 clean page reclamation shortfa=
lls<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 198910 pages reactivated by the page daemon<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 502073 copy-on-write faults<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 9226 copy-on-write optimized faults<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 27520777 zero fill pages zeroed<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A024413 zero fill pages prezeroed<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1622 intransit blocking page faults<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 42301697 total VM faults taken<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A012576 page faults requiring I/O<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 pages affected by kernel threa=
d creation<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 357307 pages affected by=C2=A0 fork()<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A028026 pages affected by vfork()<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 pages affected by rfork()<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 30941382 pages freed<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A089018 pages freed by daemon<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 13777017 pages freed by exiting processes<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 470801 pages active<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A01014759 pages inactive<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 191320 pages in the laundry queue<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 234660 pages wired down<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A096191 pages free<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 4096 bytes per page<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A03108988 total name lookups<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0cache hits (93% pos + 4% =
neg) system 0%<br>
&gt; &gt; per-directory deletions 0%, falsehits 0%, toolong 0%<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Boot time : 1571414099<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; procs=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0memory=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 page=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 disks=
<br>
&gt; &gt; faults=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 cpu0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0cpu1=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0cpu2=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0cpu3 r b w=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0avm<=
br>
&gt; &gt; fre=C2=A0 flt=C2=A0 re=C2=A0 pi=C2=A0 po=C2=A0 =C2=A0 fr=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0sr ad0 pa0=C2=A0 =C2=A0in=C2=A0 =C2=A0 sy=C2=A0 =C2=A0 cs us<br>
&gt; &gt; sy id us sy id us sy id us sy id 0 0 0 31449076=C2=A0 384704<br>
&gt; &gt; 1902=C2=A0 =C2=A09 0=C2=A0 =C2=A00=C2=A0 1391=C2=A0 861=C2=A0 =C2=
=A00=C2=A0 =C2=A00=C2=A0 222 15578=C2=A0 5778 12=C2=A0 8 80<br>
&gt; &gt; 14=C2=A0 4 82 14 4 82 14=C2=A0 4 82<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; memory info:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; real memory=C2=A0 =3D 8589934592 (8192 MB)<br>
&gt; &gt; avail memory =3D 8166465536 (7788 MB)<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; last pid: 92816;=C2=A0 load averages:=C2=A0 0.46,=C2=A0 0.66,=C2=
=A0 0.83=C2=A0 up<br>
&gt; &gt; 0+06:10:37=C2=A0 =C2=A0 22:05:36 56 processes:=C2=A0 1 running, 5=
5 sleeping<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Mem: 1840M Active, 3964M Inact, 747M Laundry, 917M Wired,<br>
&gt; &gt; 474M Buf, 375M Free Swap: 48G Total, 48G Free<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; hw.physmem: 8463925248<br>
&gt; &gt; hw.usermem: 7502598144<br>
&gt; &gt; hw.realmem: 8589934592<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 total=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0used=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0free=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0sha=
red<br>
&gt; &gt; buffers=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0cached Mem:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
8030732=C2=A0 =C2=A0 3587088<br>
&gt; &gt; 4443644=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 Swap:<br>
&gt; &gt; 50331644=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0=C2=A0 =C2=A050331644=
<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; swapinfo:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Device=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1K-blocks=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0Used=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Avail Capacity<br>
&gt; &gt; /dev/ada0s1b=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A050331644=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 0 50331644=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00%<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; vmstat:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; procs=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0memory=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 page=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 disks=
<br>
&gt; &gt; faults=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0cpu r b w=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0avm=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0fre=C2=A0 flt=C2=A0 re=C2=A0 pi=C2=A0 po<br>
&gt; &gt; fr=C2=A0 =C2=A0sr ad0 pa0=C2=A0 =C2=A0in=C2=A0 =C2=A0 sy=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 cs us sy id 1 0 0 31449076<br>
&gt; &gt; 384420 1902=C2=A0 =C2=A09=C2=A0 =C2=A00=C2=A0 =C2=A00=C2=A0 1392=
=C2=A0 861=C2=A0 =C2=A00=C2=A0 =C2=A00=C2=A0 222 15579=C2=A0 5778<br>
&gt; &gt; 14 5 82<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
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