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Date: | Wed, 7 Oct 2015 16:29:10 -0400 |
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Subject: | Re: [geda-user] Stop playing stupid political games with gEDA |
From: | "Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> |
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On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Svenn Are Bjerkem (svenn DOT bjerkem AT googlemail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote: > > On 7 October 2015 at 16:21, <gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu> wrote: >> >> I am not against change, if it's driven by a real need. What I dislike is >> changing the GUI [in an app] not because we want to change it, not because >> we want to have a better GUI or want to exploit the new features, but >> because the GUI has a newer version and the old version we use is simply >> obsolete and will not be easily available in the near future. > > > What you describe here happened to qucs when qt3 faded. The port to qt4 was > not trivial and several people burned-out in the process. Qt4 didn't add > significant features to me as an end user which couldn't have been solved > with qt3. Now qt5 is supposed to be easier to port to from qt4, but so far > qucs is not on qt5. Maybe it happens when qt4 fades. We should really talk to the qucs people more. I feel like they get forgotten in all of this (kicad/edacore) stuff. >> I also find it unsustainable long term that GUI libs get more and more >> complex potentially causing application developers to spend more and more >> time on just keeping up with their changes. I know this is an unpopular >> opinion, especially from end user's perspective. > > > The end user who wants to get things done hardly complains about missing eye > candy. Xemacs hasn't changed very much in GUI and neither has vim. Modelsim > use Tcl/Tk for their GUI, and even if it is not translucent, I create > mega-buck products with this archaic GUI. I can even script it with Tcl. And > Tcl hasn't changed much in decades. I think most people are ok with older UI stuff just as long as their files work from one version to another and no workflows are invalidated. > Anyway, I am using openbox on LXDE so I basically miss all the GNOME and KDE > fancy features. No big loss, they never made me productive same way windows > never made me productive. But in the end the big question is: Who is > supposed to be satisfied with an application? > > -- > Svenn -- Home http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/ Work http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/
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