Message-ID: <39F6132C.CA47EEB6@bluedog.apana.org.au> From: Jason Stokes X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-12 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.comp.lang.learn.c-c++,comp.os.msdos.djgpp,comp.programming Subject: Re: Undertaking a programming journey References: <8scg36$gsm$1 AT nnrp1 DOT deja DOT com> <39E9CF07 DOT 785C0C0F AT eton DOT powernet DOT co DOT uk> <8scls9$kth$1 AT nnrp1 DOT deja DOT com> <39E9FAD5 DOT DE1FDAE4 AT eton DOT powernet DOT co DOT uk> <8sdrub$h7u$1 AT nnrp1 DOT deja DOT com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 28 NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-3.aaa.net.au X-Trace: ozemail.com.au 972427933 203.14.230.68 (Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:52:13 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:52:13 EST Organization: OzEmail Ltd, Australia Distribution: world Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:54:36 +1100 To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com DJ-Gateway: from newsgroup comp.os.msdos.djgpp Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com D Steward wrote: > > > Something you seem to miss is that the beauty and power of C is the > > fact that it lends itself to a variety of programming styles. I > > personally liked Schildts books. I have only read three of them but > > the ones I read I liked. They where not perfect, but they where good. > > Appearantly a lot of other people do, since they sell so well. > How can you possibly tell us, they were not perfect but good, when you don't > know enough about programming to be able to justify such a comment. > The only virtue Schildt has is an eloquent polished style of witing. He is > wonderfully good at writing, that's why the publishers and ignorant > newcomers like him. But his programming is rubbish. A lot of his programs > won't compile, and in a lot of cases his books will tell you the opposite of > what is in the Standard. A Schildt bashing rant on the level of that makes me want to take a contrary line. So let me pose an exam-style question: From the standpoint of an engineer who is used to evaluating *tradeoffs*, might it be arguable that an *on balance* argument might be made, to wit, that a Schildt book that has been written quite elegantly and accessibly, yet contains the occasional error, might not be considered preferable to a book which is scrupulously correct, yet written in such Stroustroupish turgidness that all first-years who have had the misfortune to be exposed to it defect to something nice and easy like media studies? Why or why not? Please bear in mind the fate of the world if swamped with an army of media studies graduates...