X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to djgpp-bounces using -f NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 11:15:58 -0600 From: DJ Delorie Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp Subject: Re: VIRTUAL BOX and my GAME - Mr Rod Pemberton References: <125997 DOT 8962 DOT qm AT web45113 DOT mail DOT sp1 DOT yahoo DOT com> <201102081755 DOT p18Ht7X1002733 AT delorie DOT com> Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 12:15:58 -0500 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:cE40A5KQbuLOoGYaNQtSBgfaEqE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 51 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-StbdCn4W6+E+GGxn2MWQPbp9LIAT0X3/VXFJq0E3orRlz1xLVDyFp5u/ZaVh9JyPzJiew7q3uAQ4FoL!kwAI2jtEp7s066+EOOQdwd8sJ6eBcNukjJlMPxjieeZr174I X-Complaints-To: abuse AT giganews DOT com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3675 X-Original-Bytes: 3614 To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com DJ-Gateway: from newsgroup comp.os.msdos.djgpp Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com "Rod Pemberton" writes: > comp.os.msdos.djgpp is Usenet. Period. Read the newsgroup's charter. At its creation, it included (as per the charter) the djgpp AT delorie DOT com mailing list in a two-way gateway as part of "this". The comp.os.msdos.djgpp newsgroup has *never* stood alone, it has *always* been integrated with the mailing list. The mailing list has always been filtered, the newsgroup has never been. That's intentional. That gives djgpp users two different OFFICIAL ways to participate, according to their desires. > If you chose to distribute Usenet via email, you're the problem. > Let's be really clear: YOU should NOT expect Usenet, and/or it's users > to comply with your stupidity. I don't understand why you're being so hostile about a system that's been in place for decades. > Oh, so you're wanting *zero* users? Is that it? You feel trapped? I don't feel trapped at all. I'm just saying, if you don't like djgpp, you don't have to use it. I won't take it personally - I don't use DJGPP myself any more. People who *do* use DJGPP can continue to do so for as long as they like, and I'll keep the newsgroup, mailing list, web site, and distribution channels available for them. > Then, why do you care about what people post all? Just because I don't have anything to say at the moment doesn't mean I don't respect the other djgpp users. > You, the creator of the DJGPP project, only reply to to scold or > create hostility. Huh? I explained what happened, and nicely asked people to be polite and respectful of others. I even said "please". > All you need to do is shut it all down. As is now, it's all going to > waste. Two decades of work resulting in a fruitless pursuit. That > has to hurt. Shut it down, or take it to the next level: ELF, > 64-bits, GLIBC, etc. I see no need to do any of that. DJGPP works just fine for the people who wish to use it, and for those who want 64-bit ELF glibc, install Linux. Or use Mingw64. Or Cygwin. DJGPP was a huge success, and personally very satisfying. But, nothing lasts forever, and DJGPP is no exception. Seeing bigger and better things come along (which I've been part of, no less) doesn't hurt me at all. After all, I was a key developer of Cygwin for a while, and now work for the leading Linux software company.