X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to djgpp-bounces using -f X-Recipient: djgpp AT delorie DOT com From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" To: john AT wacontrols DOT com Cc: djgpp AT delorie DOT com Subject: Are Xlib and Xaw it QDLIB200? In-Reply-To: <201109011508.08499.john@wacontrols.com> References: <201109011508 DOT 08499 DOT john AT wacontrols DOT com> X-Mailer: VM 8.1.93a under 21.5 (beta31) "ginger" 17bcc2aab111 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 12:18:04 +0900 Message-ID: <87d3fjk4yb.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: djgpp AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk John Wright writes: > Several months ago I asked the question if anyone knows of a source for the > Quarter Deck Xm tool kit. I guess only those who bought it have the source > libraries, otherwise it has all gone to the dump. It looks like Xlib and Xaw > are the outer limits for QDLIB200. Can anyone comment further on this? Maybe > there is nothing else to comment on. Oh well! It would be nice to have Xt or > Xm to try out under DVX. There is no look or feel to Xaw widgets. IIRC, Xt (the X Toolkit) was bundled with Xlib, and didn't appear separately in a directory listing. But that's not what you want, because it's the framework that underlies Xaw (and Xm, for that matter), not a widget set. I had Motif; it was a pig on an 80486DX 50MHz. I built Xaw3D from upstream sources (with little trouble, IIRC). The look and feel was not as good as Motif, but I didn't spend my time computing tractrix paths waiting for the window to catch up to the scrollbar thumb, either. Motif also has nasty properties over a slow network. I don't know if it would be easy to build modern Xaw3d, but it shouldn't be too hard to find old ones either in the VCS repository at X.org or on old Linux/BSD CDs.