X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-help-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-help AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=strucktower.com; h= message-id:date:subject:from:to:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; s=strucktower.com; bh=I8Ae0Hf3k6yDc3x wVLHVNTZdjWA=; b=EzvzJxw6MQMddOWWMVn60CclC5h2R8kOTqTNryjQ16BHgs4 n1ulPBkSGo7K1/V2rw4cDiucaOfHMWECOi1OkB6pLPRIW+mRZPeusZP12q0+Af6b w7fle9EVCwg+Ixhs7noCRmmOUrG/+BX5HlzKS5gupuCpx8Dm8FHcYQZqWlO8= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 19:51:55 -0700 Subject: [geda-help] Another new user question on ngspice- how to export plots, and using current From: keitho AT strucktower DOT com To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id q9S2q00x014161 Reply-To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com Hi all- I'm using ngspice on Linux/Debian. I guess the graphing/plots are done using X11 by default? I haven't figured out how to export my graphs to PNG's so that I can send them in emails to folks helping me learn. Is there a way to do that, or do you recommend using a different program for graphing the plots that provides that feature? Second question: in general, I'm confused about the way ngspice handles current. Just as an example, here's a trivial netlist of a circuit using a current source to drive the base: common-emitter amplifier i1 0 1 dc q1 2 1 0 mod1 r 3 2 5000 v1 3 0 dc 15 .model mod1 npn .control dc i1 0 50u 2u run plot v(2) .endc .end Here's the output of display: ngspice 2 -> display Here are the vectors currently active: Title: common-emitter amplifier Name: dc1 (DC transfer characteristic) Date: Sat Oct 27 22:39:55 2012 V(1) : voltage, real, 26 long V(2) : voltage, real, 26 long V(3) : voltage, real, 26 long i-sweep : voltage, real, 26 long [default scale] v1#branch : current, real, 26 long The graph of this is the correct shape, but I'm confused about why it is sweeping voltage rather than current. Can someone explain what's going on here, or point to a tutorial that would help? The above netlist if taken from, and is diagrammed at, http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_3/chpt_4/5.html Thanks, Keith Ostertag