X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cloud9.net Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 15:02:08 -0500 (EST) From: Stuart Brorson To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] home soldering with hot-plates In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4F01186A DOT 5040203 AT optonline DOT net> <4F01E26F DOT 4030905 AT optonline DOT net> <201201021823 DOT q02INfjh027432 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk Sorry to reply to my own post, but on the subject of SMT soldering there is a good thread going right now on the emc-users mailing list. Here's a link to today's posts in their SF e-mail archives: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=emc-users&max_rows=25&style=ultimate&viewmonth=201201&viewday=2 Look at the posts under the subject Surface-Mount. The folks there seem to have luck with toaster ovens, which have the advantage of heating large and small parts evenly, from all sides. One guy mentions the problems of getting the right amount of solder paste in place. It's just another data point for those who are thinking about doing SMT work at home. Stuart On Mon, 2 Jan 2012, Stuart Brorson wrote: > Hi all -- > >>> Would you say it takes a little bit of practice to get this working? >>> That is to say, before this works well should I expect to fubar >>> boards? Solder bridges and splashes are not a problem - but >>> destroyed traces are. I can probably obtain a number of random >>> unused boards for experimental purposes. Maybe that makes sense >>> before jumping in with my new board - it would really ruin my day if >>> the board got destroyed. >> >> The only time I damaged a board with this technique was when I was >> doing more than one board in a row, and didn't let the hotplate cool >> between boards. However, the result wasn't a broken trace, it was a >> charred PCB that *still worked*. You're not going to get anything hot >> enough to melt copper. > > I built a SMT soldering plate a few months ago based upon what I have > seen DJ (and others) do. I attached a flat 6"x6" Alu plate to the top > of a cheap hot plate. I drilled a hole in the side of the Alu plate, > and insert a thermocouple in the hole to monitor the plate temp. I > use PbSn solder paste which I squeeze onto the SMT pads, place the > components, then ramp up the temp until everything reflows. Then I > quickly remove the PCBs and place them on a glass or metal surface to > cool down. > > Here are some observations from me about this process. > > * If you're going to solder only low-profile components (i.e. small > passives, SO-8s, etc), this technique works passibly well. You need > to practice a few times on scrap PCBs in order to know what to > expect. Don't waste your good boards on this practice. > > * I have had bad luck with tall components, such as electrolytic > caps. These components seem to suck up heat, preventing the solder > paste on their pads to melt. Meanwhile, all the other components > are swimming in their melted solder, and the devices cook while > waiting for the solder to melt under the large components. My > advice is to use through-hole parts for the large components which > can act as heat sinks, and manually solder them after you have > reflow soldered all the small components. > > * I find it difficult to squeeze a reasonable amount of solder paste > out of the syringe. Therefore, I tend to put too much solder paste > onto the pads, and need to touch up the board with a soldering iron > and solder wick afterwards. Maybe others with more finesse don't > have this problem. I suppose practice will help with this > problem. Alternately, you can get a stencil and use it to control > the amount and placement of your solder paste. > > * In light of the above, my practice nowadays is to only use the > solder plate for parts which absolutely require reflow soldering > (e.g. parts with underside solder pads). It's just as easy > for me to hand solder all the other parts, and the process is > better controlled. > > Just my observations.... > > Stuart >