X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uWYXv9YCMv97EpvUOKYE/OOJH5JohV3nkOP1bII0V1I=; b=uCw7Y+QUe+POkYivKq4ZsVUDOycx5l/xE0kkM5mo+WtxTURKQ2+Zj8iOfx7sDZ5EeS xExHXnQ0LFu5nRlrj5Mz2jGfuoq6REXy3mBfe9vv62m+Q333WRZekxWVvs1UITK+4uqV tn4JfqcQ9yaqYu090AkkGmvl4xrfAEgss3XJxqlgirXR5G1nlx+VTDJGSKSE4dDVDW9y ZwUlGcIj5QUeTwdzQIkLtMqPnHa9T1KwlySuNeP2WX+DNcfuvDsE8SOiOV1ue7BdUzuj Vb1k6a+G7enCsfeSoViUrumuJhuQBSdgU6/90VFpbKMwSbqe0lSDkCiT7neF4vu3g4Kf ne0w== X-Received: by 10.194.52.3 with SMTP id p3mr35826463wjo.2.1449474043928; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 23:40:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 08:40:38 +0100 From: "Nicklas Karlsson (nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] gshem, pcb, arrow movement Message-Id: <20151207084038.7a0bc2ff9d40d31b658cc61e@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5664e254.ea95420a.ff728.6ae7@mx.google.com> References: <20151206214133 DOT fc8779343f62baa3835fb2e3 AT gmail DOT com> <5664e254 DOT ea95420a DOT ff728 DOT 6ae7 AT mx DOT google DOT com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.0beta1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk > On 2015-12-07 02:12:07 PM, Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Nicklas Karlsson ( > > nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] < > > geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote: > > > > > Arrow keys may be used for movement and in gschem "background" is moved > > > while in pcb pointer is moved. It would be good if both used same keys. > > > movement of "background" in gschem with arrows is useful but arrow to > > move > > > pointer for fine tuning in pcb is quite a lot more useful. > > > > > > Then I use them earlier today I thought it might be worth a try to > > combine > > > them so that background is moved and pointer is moved relative to > > > background although it stay at same point on screen. > > > > > > > The two should ship with the same mouse and key movement system. There's > > no reason to have them work differently by default, and it takes a long > > time to get used to switching between them. The existing behavior must > > still be available as an option of course. > > > > I also think pcb system is a bit better than gschem, but there's also the > > question of which is more typical of other similar interfaces. I don't > > know what the default behavior should be exactly, but it should be > > consistent. > > > > The thing that gets me every time, is that you can only drag selected lines in > pcb, and only UNselected lines in gschem (or is it the other way around?). In this case pcb is a little bit odd and only allow moving unselected objects, unless several objects are selected? gschem have a nice future to cycle thru different selection possibilities which would be very useful in pcb since objects very often overlap. I have been using it for weeks quite many hours a day and have written down a few small things then I found. To work efficienlty these small things may be more important than a lot of futures. I ordered three circuit boards last day and now hopefully I will have a little bit of time for improvements. Nicklas Karlsson