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On Dec 30, 2015, at 12:21 AM, gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote:

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>=20
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015, John Doty wrote:
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>> On Dec 29, 2015, at 11:28 PM, gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote:
>>=20
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>>>> I?ve never found a serious limitation in geda-gaf abstractions.
>>>=20
>>> I have. See the mailing list traffic of the past few hours.
>>=20
>> What schematic object have you been unable to capture in the geda-gaf =
schematics? What circuit have you been unable to design? All I see is =
complaints about the work flow, not the underlying abstractions. Those =
are fully up to designing PCBs, ASICs, plumbing, makefiles, ...
>=20
> Gschem fails to handle (find, zoom onto, list, highlight, etc.) nets =
by name.

That=92s not a limitation on what you can design.

> I consider this a bug. It keeps me from, guess, finding, jumping onto =
nets using the GUI. This, together with another shortcoming about how to =
handle projects with multiple schs, keeps me from fully exploiting back =
annotation.
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> Simplest example: pin 1 of U5 is connected to Vcc, and it shouldn't =
be. Gschem can't navigate me to all occurances where this happens so =
that I can easily walk thrhough them and fix them. Instead, I manually =
have to crawl through all schs and find somtimes very hidden connections =
(e.g. burried in net attributes of heavy symbols)

Grep is your friend. The textutils can do 10,000 things with .sch files. =
No GUI tool will ever be able to do all, or even most of them.

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> I know you don't need this GUI feature. I do need it.

You confuse wants with needs.

> Random EEs I know are likely to agree with me.

Random EEs are often not the UNIX-savvy users who are most comfortable =
with geda-gaf.

John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
http://www.noqsi.com/
jpd AT noqsi DOT com



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