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Subject:	Re: VIRTUAL BOX and my GAME - Mr Rod Pemberton
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"Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have AT notreplytome DOT cmm> writes:
> comp.os.msdos.djgpp is Usenet.  Period.

Read the newsgroup's charter.  At its creation, it included (as per the
charter) the djgpp AT delorie DOT com mailing list in a two-way gateway as part
of "this".  The comp.os.msdos.djgpp newsgroup has *never* stood alone,
it has *always* been integrated with the mailing list.  The mailing list
has always been filtered, the newsgroup has never been.  That's
intentional.  That gives djgpp users two different OFFICIAL ways to
participate, according to their desires.

> If you chose to distribute Usenet via email, you're the problem.
> Let's be really clear: YOU should NOT expect Usenet, and/or it's users
> to comply with your stupidity.

I don't understand why you're being so hostile about a system that's
been in place for decades.

> Oh, so you're wanting *zero* users?  Is that it?  You feel trapped?

I don't feel trapped at all.  I'm just saying, if you don't like djgpp,
you don't have to use it.  I won't take it personally - I don't use
DJGPP myself any more.  People who *do* use DJGPP can continue to do so
for as long as they like, and I'll keep the newsgroup, mailing list, web
site, and distribution channels available for them.

> Then, why do you care about what people post all?

Just because I don't have anything to say at the moment doesn't mean I
don't respect the other djgpp users.

> You, the creator of the DJGPP project, only reply to to scold or
> create hostility.

Huh?  I explained what happened, and nicely asked people to be polite
and respectful of others.  I even said "please".

> All you need to do is shut it all down.  As is now, it's all going to
> waste.  Two decades of work resulting in a fruitless pursuit.  That
> has to hurt.  Shut it down, or take it to the next level: ELF,
> 64-bits, GLIBC, etc.

I see no need to do any of that.  DJGPP works just fine for the people
who wish to use it, and for those who want 64-bit ELF glibc, install
Linux.  Or use Mingw64.  Or Cygwin.  DJGPP was a huge success, and
personally very satisfying.  But, nothing lasts forever, and DJGPP is no
exception.  Seeing bigger and better things come along (which I've been
part of, no less) doesn't hurt me at all.  After all, I was a key
developer of Cygwin for a while, and now work for the leading Linux
software company.

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