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| Date: | Mon, 21 Oct 2019 21:38:33 +0000 |
| From: | "John L. Males (jlmales AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> |
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| Subject: | Re: [geda-help] Question: New User - How To Create Very Simple |
| Unique PCB With No Components | |
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Hello Erich,
That explains a few things that were odd. First the area I
created was a rectangle. It would appear the polygon hole tool
may be behaving odd as I am trying to use it in a rectangular
area. Though a rectangle is a polygon, but maybe the software
does not agree.
I cannot use a via as the top and bottom copper sides have to
be electrically separate. My understating of a via is is a via
connects to all layers of a board. That would still mean for a
two layer board the top and bottom layer would be connected with
a via.
John L. Males
Toronto, Ontario
Canada
21 October 2019 17:38 -0400 EDT
================================================================
2019-10-21 21:33:40+0000-UTC Time: 1571693620 PC/System time
21 Oct 21:33:40 ntpdate[13536]: ntpdate 4.2.8p12-a (1)
21 Oct 21:33:54 ntpdate[13646]: step time server 132.246.11.238
offset 0.014174 sec
FreeBSD 11.3-STABLE FreeBSD 11.3-STABLE #0 r349903: Thu Jul 11
16:13:47 UTC 2019
root AT releng2 DOT nyi DOT freebsd DOT org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
(Work in progress alternative to Linux Kernel of its own right,
Debian, and
other Linux based Kernel distributions determined.)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz (1396.86-MHz K8-class
CPU) Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz (1396.86-MHz
K8-class CPU) Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz
(1396.86-MHz K8-class CPU) Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @
1.40GHz (1396.86-MHz K8-class CPU) Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M
CPU @ 1.40GHz (1396.86-MHz K8-class CPU)
dev.cpu.0.temperature: 67.0C
dev.cpu.1.temperature: 68.0C
dev.cpu.2.temperature: 65.0C
dev.cpu.3.temperature: 64.0C
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 67.1C
vmstat -s:
17782318 cpu context switches
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182270 software interrupts
10430751 traps
86650963 system calls
27 kernel threads created
2826 fork() calls
458 vfork() calls
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8379145 zero fill pages zeroed
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1445115 total name lookups
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memory info:
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avail memory = 8166465536 (7788 MB)
last pid: 15327; load averages: 0.58, 0.39, 0.35 up
0+01:35:42 21:33:55 56 processes: 1 running, 55 sleeping
Mem: 1576M Active, 1138M Inact, 58M Laundry, 671M Wired, 245M
Buf, 4400M Free Swap: 48G Total, 48G Free
hw.physmem: 8463925248
hw.usermem: 7760547840
hw.realmem: 8589934592
total used free shared
buffers cached Mem: 8030732 2359544
5671188 0 0 0 Swap:
50331644 0 50331644
swapinfo:
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vmstat:
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Message replied to:
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 20:17:51 +1030
From: "Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via
geda-help AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> To: "Vladimir
Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com]"
<geda-help AT delorie DOT com> Subject: Re: [geda-help] Question: New
User - How To Create Very Simple Unique PCB With No Components
> The aperture made in a polygon with polygon hole tool will
> also be a polygon. I assumed you'd be making vent holes that
> are rectangular. A large via turned into a hole may do the
> same job for you, if you want a round vent hole
>
> regards,
>
> Erich
>
> On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 13:39 John L. Males (jlmales AT gmail DOT com)
> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com], <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Hello Erich,
> >
> > I have tried the make hole in polygon via the toolbar. It
> > seems not to make round holes or I am just not using
> > correctly. I have tried using this make hole in polygon
> > several times the last few days. It may be that hole does
> > not mean round based on how I have tried to use the
> > function.
> >
> > I have been looking at how parts in the library are made. I
> > have not found enough details of this yet to attempt making
> > a air hole part, or more likely hole set 3(wide)x6(long)
> > for the copper area of sensor board I am trying to make a
> > PCB for. With a part I can ensure all holes are spaced and
> > sized the exact same way. I have a few variations of the
> > sensor board I like to design, so having a part for the air
> > flow holes.
> >
> > I also likely need to make parts for different number of
> > screw terminals and different sizes for screw terminal
> > blocks.
> >
> >
> > John L. Males
> > Toronto, Ontario
> > Canada
> > 20 October 2019 22:44 -0400 EDT
> >
> >
> > ================================================================
> >
> > 2019-10-21 02:33:29+0000-UTC Time: 1571625209 PC/System time
> >
> > 21 Oct 02:33:29 ntpdate[23707]: ntpdate 4.2.8p12-a (1)
> >
> > 21 Oct 02:33:45 ntpdate[25599]: step time server
> > 35.183.57.169 offset 0.001036 sec
> >
> > FreeBSD 11.3-STABLE FreeBSD 11.3-STABLE #0 r349903: Thu Jul
> > 11 16:13:47 UTC 2019
> > root AT releng2 DOT nyi DOT freebsd DOT org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
> >
> > (Work in progress alternative to Linux Kernel of its own
> > right, Debian, and
> > other Linux based Kernel distributions determined.)
> >
> > Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz
> > Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz (1396.86-MHz
> > K8-class CPU) Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz
> > (1396.86-MHz K8-class CPU) Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @
> > 1.40GHz (1396.86-MHz K8-class CPU) Intel(R) Core(TM)
> > i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz (1396.86-MHz K8-class CPU) Intel(R)
> > Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz (1396.86-MHz K8-class CPU)
> >
> > dev.cpu.0.temperature: 68.0C
> > dev.cpu.1.temperature: 68.0C
> > dev.cpu.2.temperature: 64.0C
> > dev.cpu.3.temperature: 63.0C
> > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 67.1C
> >
> > vmstat -s:
> >
> > 128148525 cpu context switches
> > 6594426 device interrupts
> > 1140464 software interrupts
> > 27350639 traps
> > 498775320 system calls
> > 27 kernel threads created
> > 3323 fork() calls
> > 1057 vfork() calls
> > 0 rfork() calls
> > 0 swap pager pageins
> > 0 swap pager pages paged in
> > 0 swap pager pageouts
> > 0 swap pager pages paged out
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> > 7512 vnode pager pages paged out
> > 0 page daemon wakeups
> > 13304337 pages examined by the page daemon
> > 0 clean page reclamation shortfalls
> > 0 pages reactivated by the page daemon
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> > 8249 copy-on-write optimized faults
> > 15484848 zero fill pages zeroed
> > 7381 zero fill pages prezeroed
> > 45 intransit blocking page faults
> > 27568989 total VM faults taken
> > 17970 page faults requiring I/O
> > 0 pages affected by kernel thread creation
> > 219177 pages affected by fork()
> > 38949 pages affected by vfork()
> > 0 pages affected by rfork()
> > 20724523 pages freed
> > 0 pages freed by daemon
> > 7108958 pages freed by exiting processes
> > 287566 pages active
> > 949024 pages inactive
> > 76999 pages in the laundry queue
> > 288726 pages wired down
> > 405416 pages free
> > 4096 bytes per page
> > 4563245 total name lookups
> > cache hits (93% pos + 3% neg) system 0%
> > per-directory deletions 0%, falsehits 0%, toolong 0%
> >
> > Boot time : 1571592669
> >
> > procs memory page disks
> > faults cpu0 cpu1 cpu2 cpu3 r b w avm
> > fre flt re pi po fr sr ad0 pa0 in sy cs us
> > sy id us sy id us sy id us sy id 0 0 0 29925660 1621604
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> > 8 3 89 8 3 89 8 3 89
> >
> > memory info:
> >
> > real memory = 8589934592 (8192 MB)
> > avail memory = 8166465536 (7788 MB)
> >
> > last pid: 35247; load averages: 0.92, 0.98, 0.93 up
> > 0+09:02:36 02:33:45 60 processes: 1 running, 59 sleeping
> >
> > Mem: 1124M Active, 3707M Inact, 301M Laundry, 1128M Wired,
> > 621M Buf, 1583M Free Swap: 48G Total, 48G Free
> >
> > hw.physmem: 8463925248
> > hw.usermem: 7281143808
> > hw.realmem: 8589934592
> >
> > total used free shared
> > buffers cached Mem: 8030732 2613004
> > 5417728 0 0 0 Swap:
> > 50331644 0 50331644
> >
> > swapinfo:
> >
> > Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity
> > /dev/ada0s1b 50331644 0 50331644 0%
> >
> > vmstat:
> >
> > procs memory page disks
> > faults cpu r b w avm fre flt re pi po
> > fr sr ad0 pa0 in sy cs us sy id 0 0 0 29925660
> > 1621608 847 0 0 0 637 409 0 0 203 15320 3936
> > 8 3 89
> >
> >
> > Message replied to:
> >
> > Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 12:31:37 +1030
> > From: "Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via
> > geda-help AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> To:
> > "Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) [via
> > geda-help AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> Subject:
> > Re: [geda-help] Question: New User - How To Create Very
> > Simple Unique PCB With No Components
> >
> >
> > > There is a tool on the toolbar that allows you to make
> > > openings/holes in polygons. You should try to get the
> > > hang of this so you can do this around openings to avoid
> > > copper coming right up to the edge of the aperture, to
> > > prevent possible tearing of the copper when the opening
> > > is being routed. This "pullback" is often around 0.2mm
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Erich
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